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Full time stay-at-home mom to two little cuties. Used to be -something, I forgot what. Still somewhat startled at the changes. Love the Dollies, hate the housework.

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Tuesday, July 26, 2005

 

Polling my neighbors

I am fascinated by this topic, and I mean that literally. I ask everyone their opinion about it - my friends, my OB, my kids' pediatrician, the woman who runs the local playgroup - and surprisingly (well, I'm getting used to it) EVERY woman I've talked to has an opinion about the way their life has gone versus what they were somewhat expecting. (It's like we're all theorizing and analyzing our lives - but when? 3 AM?)

As one of them said to me "I was always told YOU WERE MEANT FOR BETTER THAN THIS. For big things. Go conquer the world." And then she had kids. And that whole conquer thing got kind of hard. Are we absolutely thrilled and grateful and happy we had children? Of course, absolutely (fast becoming my favorite word).

That's the point. It's just that, there is this generation of women and I, obviously, think I am smack dab in the middle of it, that came along after that whole civil rights/women's lib thing, and everyone was so excited to tell us walls were down and we could go do what we wanted! Woohoo! It's just that nobody mentioned - oh, and by the way, there is this whole other little ittybitty thing we might have forgotten to mention that might kind of sort of greatly (and rightly so) affect that...

And you don't have to drop completely out of work to have it affect you. My good friend at a big foreign car company, MBA, important job, etc...we were just talking about how odd it feels that she shys away from promotions because it will mean more (foreign) travel and with two little kids at home she's not interested. So is this it? This is where her career goes? We remember working with people like that when we were in our twenties - why aren't they more aggresive? Why are they happy just stopping there? Some even seemed to be stuck in a little way station in their career. (And not that my girlfriend is in a little way station - God, these blogs can be tricky! She made it a hell of a lot further than I did to a perfectly admirable place to stay; it's just that, she obviously has the chance to go further *if she wanted it*. Huh. That whole dilemma thing. (Note to self for next life: stick to one career . . . )

Certainly men do this sometimes too; it's not just a girl thing. Men sometimes stop gunning for the big advancement because they like to see their kids too. What am I saying? That I just didn't realize you really can't have it all? Just regular run-of-the-mill hit 40 and realize you really won't be a rockstar, is that it? Nah. (Well, maybe). But I think there's more to it...the next stage of the whole (God, I even hate this terminology) "lib" thing (please God we need a new name) - recognizing women (and men) have a ton to contribute after their kids are raised and maybe we should let them back on the fast track/rat race if they want. I know, pipe dreams, pipe dreams. (Huh. Now that I'm older (maybe more observant, being younger would make more sense) it just suddenly occurred to me where that phrase probably came from. Huh, that's kind of funny! "Pipe dreams".)

PS As I sit, Little Big Girl is at playschool and Baby was asleep. Then Baby woke up; due to some rain I don't feel guilty about not taking her outside. I use the rain as an excuse not to do something interactive with her inside as well - instead she sits on my lap while I finish the last paragraph. Sits on my lap and empties out every drawer in the desk (yes, leaning over at times). Envelopes, stationary, stamps, checkbooks, (open) boxes of new checks, mail I don't know what to do with, papers with notes I am supposed to keep track of, (other people's) business cards, floppy disks, little plastic things that mark file folders, their paper labels, a lifetime collection of pens. All in a big circle around me. Just one more little household tasky for me and I brought this one on myself.

7 Comments:

Anonymous Anonymous said...

I want to join in on the blog content .....really I'm bursting and have comments at the ready...but how do I be one of the managers?

Your sister

Krisco's Sister (my new id??)
Elsey - the sister (huh?)

1:36 AM, July 27, 2005  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Got an email from a new MOMs club mom I chatted with at the park, gave encouragement to, etc. She emailed with a thanks and said that despite training as a pediatrician this whole mommy thing has thrown her for a complete loop. Pediatrician?? You would never know it...at our meeting she was just one of the moms, a greeny at that just barely making it out of the house by 10:30 a.m. This motherhood thing is really the great equalizer somewhat akin to Australia's tall poppy syndrome (pull down yar mates that are gettin too far ahead). Perhaps that's really our struggle...we were getting ahead and now nobody even asks what you did before babies. -- elsey, the sister

1:41 AM, July 27, 2005  
Blogger YEKPS said...

Oh no, first Kris gets me to sign up for the aforementioned home business (Melaleuca), which I am now spending $60.00 a month on anti-itch cream and shampoo (OK, so even Rich has come around and says the cream really works!), and now she has me contributing to a blog? Please! Can't I just go back to my nightly hour of Spider Solitaire?

I'm not sure what I'll talk about on the blog...I'm the one who is stagnating at the foreign car company (thanks, Kris)...and I'm sure I'll talk about work, kids (of which I have 2), and New Jersey suburbia.

Before I sign off though, I'll talk about how, in the midst of it all, how great it is for women to have friends...and, that no matter how close you become to the moms of your daughter or son's friends.. it's really the ones you meet before you're 30 that define you. Now, if we could only make time for them among the kids, the husband, the job, the suburbs!

Well, have to go play solitaire and meet my monthly Melaleuca point quota!

8:18 PM, August 05, 2005  
Anonymous Kris said...

Well, Miss yekps!!!

Yes, you are the one at the foreign car company. OOPS!! I meant to warn you that I, um, talked about you in my blog. Um, yekps - I talked about you in my blog. Told your whole personal (work) story. Hope that is okay!! Yikes. The things you forget to do...like tell your very good friend such a thing.

(It must be a little odd to read someone's blog and FIND your own personal story there. Well, that just goes to show how great those longtime friendships can be...or perhaps how forgiving....:)

It is interesting how early friendships define you. Is it because you go through experiences together? Or because you have the time to get to know people so much better in your younger years? (God, I sound so old! We're not that old! It's the new 30!!) Or the other option - do we just reveal less of ourselves when we meet someone "later" in life...

Thanks for commenting on our blog, Ms yekps, and I look forward to hearing more from you here again soon!! (BTW, between rounds of Tetrus which I know you also want to try again, will you email this site to our other mutual friends? I don't have all their emails any more....)

12:59 AM, August 06, 2005  
Anonymous BoulderLynne said...

Oh my goodness. As if I didn't have enough reasons to stay up late on the computer, now I have been sucked in to the wierd little world of blogs. And I resisted for so long... but here's the thing. I realize many of you heeded the call to career, and chose a path (or two or three) for better for for worse. I however, find myself on a slightly tilted trajectory in relation to the career thing (somehow most of my trajectories are slightly tilted).

I somehow bought into the "you can have it all" thing so completely, that I can't bring myself to limit my options (which are a diminishing pool in the reality I seemingly refuse to accept) by actualling choosing a path, STILL! When those scions of the fem movement (like Hank Azaria in The Birdcage, only different) said ALL, I didn't think I was going to have to CHOOSE!! Let's see, I want to be a full time mom, an artist, a writer, a business person, perhaps a realtor, maybe an architect? Oh yes, and landscape design, that's cool. Cooking (not the mac and cheese variety) is fun, maybe I should take some classes. Hmmm, what about getting back into the import business? Consulting? Software design?

Maybe I could combine some things and fit more in: I could become a realtor, match people with potential remodels, draw up the plans with my architecture and landscape design skills, maybe even the interiors, that's fun. Aargh! I don't want to choose just one, so it becomes difficult to commit fully to any. Except the mama thing. Thank goodness my little Boo came along. Who would have thought having a child could rescue a modern woman from the tyranny of liberation?

12:45 AM, August 16, 2005  
Blogger Krisco said...

boulderlynne-
Oh no - I relate just a little TOO MUCH to this whole thing. These are things I think I should do next (or maybe during nap time): write a book, write another book, put together another book (all completely sketched out IN MY HEAD - nothing on paper), also do real estate, organize some real estate investing, paint my little cards, sell them online, oh and I think I should cook better too. And I am not just ripping you off. (I could never take a class. I can just read more cookbooks! Right? Follow the directions! So why isn't that working?)

"Rescue a modern woman from the tyranny of liberation." That is the perfect phrase! Maybe that's what these little bambinos are for - in addition to, you know, species continuation and being their own wonderful glorious selves.

12:02 PM, August 17, 2005  
Anonymous Amy said...

And how about those women, like me, who never wanted the career thing, but took a job while waiting for Mr. Right to come along, then ended up getting promoted until she now makes nearly half of the household income and cannot afford to quit? (Yeah, I know, that's a huge run-on sentence.) For many years I've had the dream to be a stay-at-home mom and homeschooler. For two years now, I've had a plan to pay off debt and tightened the budget in the groceries and household categories in an effort to compensate for the planned lack of a second income. We've made real progress. However, today after much scrutiny and tears I've realized that it is all just a pipe dream. We'll never be able to afford for me to quit and I have another baby on the way. Perhaps hormones are to blame for all the tears. :) Now I'm stuck at this time-consuming, joy-deflating and just generally boring job FOREVER!!!!! And finding another job is not an option because I never bought into the whole "a-career-can-be-fulfilling and you-CAN-have-it-all" feminist lie anyway. Sorry for venting so much.

2:51 PM, August 02, 2006  

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